Rudy Giuliani, attorney for President Trump, appeared on Hannity Wednesday night to explain why the legal team rejected special counsel Robert Mueller’s term for an interview.
Giuliani said the “real story” is that the case isn’t going to fizzle, “it’s going to blow up on them,” referring to the Mueller team.
“The reality is, the real story is not that this case isn’t going to fizzle,” he said to host Sean Hannity. “It’s going to blow up on them. The real question is, what we talked about before, there’s a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet.”
“A lot more to the obstruction of justice, to the collusion, to the fake dossier,” Giuliani added.
“I know some of it,” Hannity revealed.
Giuliani said the only collusion involved in this case is the intel community using the Steele dossier to obtain “several fraudulent FISA wires.”
“Can it get any worse? I mean, what do we need to know that this is a totally illegitimate investigation based on a report, a dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats — probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest collusion so far. Completely made up. Completely made up. Led to nothing except several fraudulent FISA wires,” Giuliani said.
Well, may be if Mueller and his band of whatever they are, Democrats, right, were fair-minded, maybe they’d investigate — maybe that’s the collusion. Maybe that’s the collusion,” he said of the infamous dossier.
Giuliani said what is going on by the Mueller investigative team is a “different kind of Watergate,” calling them corrupt “through and through.”
“And I believe that when this plays out over the next year or two, it’s not going to be about President Trump. It’s going to get over with. It’s going to be about all the things they did,” he said of Mueller’s team.
“You know how sometimes the cover-up is worse than the crime? In this case, the investigation was much worse than the no-crime,” the former NYC mayor said.
“I think it’s going to lead to some very strict — very big reforms, just like Watergate,” he said. “It’s a different kind of Watergate. It’s on the side of the investigator.”
Hannity said when we get to the bottom of the investigation, it will “shock the heart, the soul, and the mind” of fair-minded Americans.
“My sources are telling me that when the American people get to the bottom of all of this, it will shock the heart, the soul, and the mind of any fair-minded American,” the host said.
Transcript, via FOX News:
SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Joining us now in studio responding to all this breaking news, it is President Trump’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani.
Mr. Mayor, good to see you, sir. How are you?
RUDY GIULIANI, ATTORNEY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP: Good to see you, Sean.
HANNITY: All right. Let’s start with tonight’s breaking news. So, you got Ohr, Steele, Nellie Ohr. We got Russian lies.
GIULIANI: Can it get any worse? I mean, what do we need to know that this is a totally illegitimate investigation based on a report, a dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats — probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest collusion so far.
HANNITY: Or conspiracy.
GIULIANI: Completely made up. Completely made up. Led to nothing except several fraudulent FISA wires.
And now, we have Mueller, who doesn’t seem to care that he’s sitting on top of a totally illegitimate investigation.
HANNITY: But the dossier, thinking about the dossier that she paid for and the fact that the FBI paid Steele, it was designed to misinform the American people with Russian lies to influence the election.
HANNITY: There’s a great irony here, if it wasn’t —
GIULIANI: Well, may be if Mueller and his band of whatever they are, Democrats, right, were fair-minded, maybe they’d investigate — maybe that’s the collusion. Maybe that’s the collusion.
HANNITY: Did you ever hear the Adam Schiff tape that we played?
HANNITY: Adam Schiff, he’s just dying to get naked pictures of Trump with a Russian on tape. There’s your evidence, Mueller. You can’t make it up. If it wasn’t so seriously — not only did they try to lie to the American people with Russian lies, now we know after the election, they tried to destroy the president with lies.
And now, they are connected to Mueller perhaps?
GIULIANI: Yes, I’ve never been involved in an investigation on either side that’s more illegitimate than this one, that is so obviously more illegitimate. And I wonder where is the sense of justice on the part of Mueller, on the part of the Justice Department.
After all, the Justice Department — this is a Justice Department investigation. He is working for Rosenstein. And at some point, you’ve got to say the irregularities, the unethical conduct —
HANNITY: Double standard.
GIULIANI: — the double standard, the way in which people who hate Trump will put into primary positions of power has completely tainted this investigation.
HANNITY: My family is families from law enforcement, my mom was a prison guard, you know, my dad, New York City, family court probation, so many cops in my family, FBI agents. I cannot believe this is such — these are — the rank-and-file are so good.
Here’s the thing, you responded today to Mueller’s latest request and you think this could be over by September. Let’s start with the request.
GIULIANI: Well, I think of it isn’t over by September, then we have a very, very serious violation of the Justice Department rules that you shouldn’t be conducting one of these investigations in the 60-day period.
Look, he’s got plenty of time to either decide — we offered him an opportunity to do a form of questioning. He can say yes or no. We can do it. If he doesn’t want to do …read more